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I'm George Ellery I'm Steve Coppell and
we are toppled Galloway which grabbed
you this week when you grabbed me this
week well we had some huge revelations
in the ongoing saga of the undercover
policing inquiry the CI cops
scandal yes the Guardian basically
published the list of all the
organizations which had been targeted by
undercover policing now the list went
from the sublime which was a community
group in Leeds was targeted when they
set up and they set up their huge
threats in established order where they
set up a community group which was
funded by a grant from the government
they were spied on by the rozzers to the
ridiculous
that's a huge list of people who
infiltrated the the wonderful Socialist
Workers Party charged that they had more
infiltrators than anyone else everyone's
favorite political group the SW painting
and loans a loss that they are and they
were heavily infiltrated but I mean some
of the names on the list as well were
some more telling up to the RMT have
been heavily involved in unison unite
anti-fascist groups Animal Liberation
groups and Communist Party repeatedly
came up so it was common for me it was
like well this is fascinating and it is
quite staggering the amount of groups
that were infiltrated it's not
surprising then I've searched for all's
program that my dad always used to tell
me the story of these days in the
Communist Party in the 50s where they'd
introduce open their meetings and they'd
always say and hello to our friends at
the back because they knew special
grants were standing at the back
pretending to be members watching them
so it's not new but the scale of it is
quite extraordinary and and also for me
what small Jordan is the way this
Inquirer has been conducted we've never
discussed us on this program before I
know people who have been witnesses in
the spy cops inquiry and there's been
numerous
staggering
misdemeanors but throughout the inquiry
process for example one friend of mine
the person who the spy cop she was
involved with she didn't know through
whom it was they published the name
without even telling her and and so she
had to find out through the press that
someone secrets is a friend for five
years who she lived with was actually an
undercover police officer even though
she's been witnessed an actual inquiry
and then someone else their name the
name of witness was released through a
risk assessment and put into the public
domain without their permission the
thing the whole thing's been sort of
mired by incompetence and what looks
like willful neglect the proximate cause
of this inquiry is the highly unethical
practice of these spy courts of forming
relationships with women yes some cases
fathering children with women when the
entire thing was a lie that the woman
was a subject of their investigation now
if that's not unethical policing I'm not
sure what we direct the lives of these
women they've damaged the lives of these
children by appearing in their lives
fathering their children walking away
and they're the children no no that
their father was actually a copper
rather than a bearded progressive yet
it's absolutely an idea you're correct
that's the most sort of nauseating part
really of the something that that is the
length so the guys who they're quite
happily ruin people's lives and let's
but I try I start to get my head round
the source proportion of this yeah
because some of the groups I infiltrate
is no real threat I mean this is all I
mean that's one of the main issues
Assessors who chooses the Bruns that are
a threat to our way of life
what is our way of life chooses which
groups are a threat to it and the
devotion of public money to penetration
and forgive upon and and infiltration of
these organizations some of them what
of obvious and I've always worked on the
assumption that the state is listening
reading and energies and hello to our
friends at the back sending people into
my circle I mean even when I ran for
London mayor which was a small campaign
154 thousand votes but nothing's
remotely like enough ill funded a very
small group of activists even amongst
them I was looking around my own kitchen
table wondering who was there from the
yard Devco or worse than the yard so you
know I myself don't have a particular
problem with that my life is an open
book I don't do things of which I'd be
ashamed I sometimes do things of which
I'd be embarrassed but that's a
different thing but the devotion of
significant public resources into a
community organization leads or a
friends of the earth meeting in the
stratum library it's clearly
disproportionate and the other issues
arise how many times did these police
agents act as azam azam provocateurs in
other words I'm a police agent I'm
encouraging you to break the law and to
become more extreme that's not a logic
in that because it keeps me in a job
keeps the expenses rolling in the more I
can encourage you to do dodgy things the
more need there is for me to keep spying
Morgan that's something that isn't being
addressed yes in this regard one here
second point is this is also long ago
I mean so long ago I was still an
activist in Scotland when most of this
spying was going on so as I saw you
raised on Twitter the other day who the
infiltrating no exactly this is my major
problem with this at and well this is
not a major problem with most bloody
things that go on in society and we were
here about
historically after the event because
there seems to be this notion in the in
the public psyche or rather an ocean is
forced onto the public psyche that oh
well this is historical this this
happened many many years ago and and and
we're expected to believe that these
leopards change their spots suddenly and
this kind of thing doesn't exist anymore
and it doesn't go it go on which is of
course absolute unfettered nonsense and
this would be it must be this is my
major concern that's well and some of
the date sort of gone to 2006-2007 so
what are they doing now is it's the my
logic would presume that the methods
have changed that they don't know have
no need to actually embed people in
organizations now because of the rise of
technology and social media and of
course investigative powers Act of 2016
where they basically legalized all the
legal stuff they were doing before this
node and exposed and that they would be
monitoring biotechnology I mean I've
seen it myself whenever I go out with
disabled people on protests for example
and kind of streets around the corner
you always seen the green police fan
which is the monitoring ban where there
are monitoring what's going on social
media well in monitoring telephone calls
there's always parked a few streets
around the corner by anyone who's anyone
in it is working to rather than human
yes no and exactly and it does make a
question who are they now monitoring
because it I mean it's no small stretch
of the imagination for me and that
someone like yourself with us we I'd say
be monitored because of what you say and
what you do i I think outlets like the
canary would probably there be some sort
of level of monitoring of them because
some of the work we've put out in the
past but also I hope they pay their
subscript I hope they do yes the hope
though on the Petri exactly just $1 a
month for four episodes GCHQ infants
like it yeah and I also believe they
monitored in current time this groups
like to say the people against cuts so I
support because they aren't I mean
they're quite a militant to say lubes
organization they've caused problems in
Parliament before but it does make the
question what the hell is going on now
what do we not
now about and I think in this age of the
digital revolution and the Internet's we
should or will be very worried about
what they are doing by the way
it's a small Segway but did you see the
report this week about the attitude
towards black people in Britain by mi5
and mi6 in the 1960s did you see that
item there's a report never before seen
documents from the security services in
which they have an open discussion about
why it wouldn't be wise to employ
British black people in the service
because they are likely to have a chip
on their shoulder they they never asked
why they might have a chip on their
shoulder handle by chip on their
shoulder which would make them
unreliable as servants of the state as
men and women in raincoats
now you might put that down too well
that was the 1960s after all but it is
still the case that neither mi5 or mi6
have a single person of colour ttan form
an ethnic minority in either of the
upper breaches anywhere they therefore
must be the last two institutions in
Britain there are all quite Affairs here
and if the lesson
a leopard never changes its spots this
is a bird is this a plane this is gonna
be a boy is it going to be a girl and I
think we can safely say it's a bloody
parasites this is the news that's Megan
Markham no she's not even make a marker
anymore is she really
Megan wasn't the Duchess of wherever is
having a baby with the Prince of someone
women has baby shot yes women has baby
shocker so Megan and Harry are
collectively with child just a matter of
weeks after they got married if I had a
shotgun I'd have it's a hand and it
could be more come I never thought of
that do you think that might be well
then with I mean it's alright
the
timing is interesting save lease because
obviously they they've got married and
then spring baby is coming along it's
also perfect isn't it and just in time
for brick sir just in time for breakfast
it baby and they've now been they've
been just off to Australia now haven't
they um where republicanism is on the
rise
and obviously it's try and sort of quell
the mass unrest with the wrong family
over there their mothers such a cynic I
feel happy a young couple very much in
love I think it's a breath of fresh air
we're going to see little rels nothing
on it Rick oh good telly on little
mixed-race children running around on
the Royal balcony if Prince Philip is
still alive he'll probably die on a shot
ooh
this is the first black person in the
royal family first Roman Catholic in the
Royal memory she seems like such star
quality they're really lucky to have her
and she's turned out to be
extraordinarily fertile I mean the door
has just closed on the honeymoon suite
and she's in the club look right it's i
mean i i'm deeply suspicious that okay
lily allen has been accosted by the
mainstream press as it happens for
tweeting that under no coincidence
distract us all from brexit there's a
role baby in the dance they just had sex
actually it what do you think um I'm not
sure if a turkey baster may have been
involved but Lily Allen has been Keys
accused of being a conspiracy theorist I
never thought of any of these things
she'd sit I just assumed it was the
natural consequence of their loving
union look I have considered I was
discussing this my wonderful girlfriend
Nicola this morning before I came to
film this show and Lily Alice minica has
been in conspiracy theory saying that it
was timed which as the Stratus from
breakfast didn't really say that she was
just jokingly saying it but she's been
widely condemned that there seems to be
something about royal children coming
quickly after a wedding it's almost as
if like they're told right you now have
to have sex one arrow one
spear but I think surely they do don't
they surely they're instructed so you
now have to have all these children this
check this child I mean she is 37 which
in medical terms is the geriatric mother
that's literally what it's called yeah
so it is you know lucky that she got
pregnant quite so quickly and I hope
that they manage to squeeze more in or
squeeze more out before before the end
but there'll be 7th in line for the
throne they won't be called prince or
princess now of course it's another
mouth to feed but as mrs. May said
austerity is over we can afford that we
can afford it of course but there's a
serious point briefly with this as well
I'm anti-monarchist
not for the earth if it's a surprise
you should have seen the discussion
off-camera about this as well I am an
auntie Monica's not for the weak flaccid
arguments that a lot of Republicans make
which is all they cost US taxpayers
money because that arguments so
debatable because the government
finances show that because of tourism
they bring in lots of money no that's a
null and void argument and Auntie
Monica's because they rent said
everything's wrong with Britain in terms
of the hierarchy that we live under in
the world for that matter this hierarchy
we live under also that they involve
themselves in politics we're not
supposed to if you remember the black
spider letters from Prince Charles
ultimately this robe a baby on a serious
note is is I find it quite nauseating
not least because there was a report out
yesterday which said the infant
mortality numbers in this rate is now 4
in 1,000 were in the EU
it's 2.8 in 1,000 that's around 40%
higher infant mortality in this country
than in the EU and the report says if we
don't get it under control
it'll to be a 140 percent higher by
around 2030 we have a real issue in this
country with poor children dying or what
we also have an issue with is as I wrote
that several months ago that the birth
rates for the richest in this country
are now skyrocketing while the birth
rates for the poorest in society are
actually dropping off so this whole
notion of benefit scrounging families
having loads of children's
essentially bollocks and what we are
seeing is a shift in the life and lower
benefits grammar they are banned in
there we don't cure at the DSS office
conveys we're seeing a shift in this
country of the richest cementing their
hold in society by having more children
know the mortality rates for them while
the poorest in society via things like
the two child rooms on tax credits and
mortality rates for children are being
stopped from reproducing and there's a
real issue and for me the words it
represents is eugenics that's what we're
living under you Gerak's Eugenie Eugenie
was the least successful royal wedding
in history she married a tequila
salesman
Harry has married a working actress of
color and previously at least of Roman
Catholic faith I think it's all breaking
down the country is going to the dogs
and I think it's relics
we now know that bus fools of Yemeni
schoolchildren are not worth the hair on
the head of a Washington Post columnist
the massacre of the innocents in Yemen
has been now going on for four years a
Saudi Arabian led coalition they call it
though it wouldn't be able to lift a
finger in the Yemen without the full
participation of British and American
military hardware and military officers
Yemen is now a disaster of biblical
proportions not only have tens of
thousands of people mainly women and
children being wiped out by bombs and
missiles there's a cholera epidemic in
the country the worst in more than 200
years and the UN has just declared that
there's a famine in Yemen which may be
the worst famine in a century and I was
by the way present at the last big
famine in Ethiopia Eritrea Sudan in
sub-saharan Africa in the mid 1980s I
know what a famine looks like and smells
like but that famine will be as nothing
to the famine that is now underway in
Yemen we have struggled now all these
years to get any Western journalist with
a few honorable exceptions all ignorant
of the NBC very good action our very
good to get Western journalists
interested Western policymakers
interested and completely failed and
then along comes the mafia-style
and gruesome hit on Jamal Ashanti the
colonists of the Washington Post isn't
amazing when the rest of the world
catches up with you and a date sky is
kind of amazing and infuriating in equal
measure I have a vested interest in this
because I was writing about yeah
before anyone else bothered picking up
on our the middle of 2015 I started
writing about what was going on in Yemen
and started shouting about it and as you
say slowly it kind of drips into the
mainstream press and now suddenly a
salary and journalist is murdered that
dismembered allegedly still but of
course it was an interrogation gone
wrong
yeah well I mean the killers just
happened to bring a bonus song where as
you know gay tree I've got one in my
pockets now as you do Club 18:30 having
your own beat which we shouldn't laugh
it is gruesome
I mean even the Mafia would have balked
at this hit yeah they lure the guy in
for his divorce papers they mother um
allegedly on tape
presumably because the Turks have bugged
the embassy as most countries but most
people's embassies but maybe also
because he had an Apple watch there are
scientist on watch ladies and gentlemen
you'll be able to record your own demise
just ask and then they cut him into
pieces and carry DOMA in cake boxes into
a van into a private jet because the
Saudis always travel in private gentles
and presumably disposal over the Empty
Quarter somewhere near is a heinous
almost unbelievable crime and against
someone who was by the way no
progressive this is a man keshavjee who
supported the Saudi war on Syria which
has dismembered I don't know how many
hundreds of thousands of people who
supported for a time the Saudi war on
Yemen who support I was going to say
supports no longer but supported the
Saudi royal dictatorship a system I mean
so far is still not that it's a it did I
mean these the Saudi Arabia are
essentially nine yaks they are absolute
my view was in all those public
beheadings of people on Friday
afternoons in public
it is the equivalent of us going to the
cinema it's I mean that there are
absolute magnetics but you're quite
right to point out that suddenly and now
the interest is piqued
in Yemen and Saudi Arabia's horrific
almost biblical style crimes that they
commit suddenly everyone's going or what
this isn't very good
it's it and but I mean let's put this
into context so she said the Yemen war
since 2015 has been going on I hasten to
call it a war really it's the same as
calling what happens in Gaza a war it's
not it's essentially an a genocide a
paid for genocide by Western governments
and we make notions in the ring with a
small baby yeah I mean so UK
government's so far running total four
point six billion worth of arms to Saudi
Arabia's since this conflict began
three-quarters of the population 21
million people in Yemen are in need of
humanitarian aid as you say you and are
predicting the worst famine in the
hundred years which could affect 13
million people you've had estimates
range from 7075 of 10,000 people killed
the the figures are just staggering and
within all this you have the UK's
involvement which is for example the UN
last year pinned at least 500 deaths of
children specifically on Saudi
airstrikes these are planes so to Saudi
Arabia and I think by the US and the
bombs are the ones we sell to them were
you as you quite rightly pointed out you
have UK military personnel stationed in
Saudi operation centers directing all of
this and meanwhile the UK government and
put Saudi Arabia on it's 13 top
countries for human rights abuses and
yet still doesn't blink and harder to
sell them all these weapons and involve
itself in this conflict is it just that
Steve they kiss the nose as a
brotherhood from kissing the posterior
of these barbarian yeah when this Crown
Prince Mohammed bin Salman came to
Britain then to New York Washington and
Hollywood he was treated he was
described as a rock star Prince his
picture was everywhere
not just in paid advertising lor may
have been paid under the counter in
editorial from the Guardian to the Times
newspaper after newspaper broadcaster
after broadcaster healed this man as a
rock star as a reformer as a man who was
allowing Saudi women to drive but only
if there was a male relative in the car
and they could afford to do so of course
this man is he violent mafia style thug
but all of our media class celebrated
over him there and why not because of
the prophets peace be upon them but the
prophets have a get piece of them and
they could make up just when you thought
it was safe to get back in the water
just when you thought you'd ramped the
dirt down just when you thought that the
iron sarcophagus in which she's in
talent had rid us of Margaret Thatcher
forever she's coming back on the fifty
pound notes I mean there's some benefit
to our being on the fifty pound note
because it means the Bullingdon Club
will not be an I set fire to them and
wave them under the noses of homeless
people in shop doorways and it means the
only rich people will have to look at
her yes but it's a sick reflection on
our society that this is now a serious
runner that Margaret Thatcher of the
most disastrous record of social peace
social fabric and industrial
productivity and wealth in this country
that there has ever been should maybe be
considered to appear on a banknote
yes absolutely I buy I watched you on
good morning Britain on Tuesday morning
with obvious with all goddess Johnson's
oh yes yes God that double act is born
well
good grief not better than this one of
clawful jello in Jo Louise Johnson no
thank you
now I thought you were marvelous and in
you summed up very nicely because it did
and the piers morgan show is complete
lack of understanding it's what it
represents the fact that they would be
willing to do this I mean you can stem
nearly everything that's wrong with the
world in some respects on a sort of
basic level you can stem it all back to
her and Reagan defense and the ergonomic
of cecile going on the Big Bang of 1986
the deindustrialization of the North
which still sees I read some interesting
figures the other day between 2010 2016
growth in London was 22% in the
Northeast it was just 4% we are still
seeing effects and factors such as
policies today and so somehow have this
woman and honors on a 50-pound note
which admittedly no one's going to have
it's a slap in the face to I mean it's
hard to know where to begin with who
it's a slap in the face to really
whether you want to say the miners where
do you want say to do northern
communities where I every Irish whether
you want to say they council house
tenants it's it it's it's staggering
that they would consider this but I
think is it embodies the arrogant
emboldened this as well of the
establishment class of the minutes
they're literally they're they're so
dogmatic and so sure of themselves in
the path that they're putting us on that
they would even consider suggesting that
we can because as a petition launched
isn't there as well - yeah it goes
Treasury inspired I mean they're flying
the kite to see if that's why I'm
reacting so fiercely to it I think if
the public respond negatively in enough
force we can ditch it yeah you might say
what a victory would that be I didn't
know it matters it does matter eyes I
think it doesn't sending a signal from
the state that she and all her evil
works is somehow respectable yes when I
had thought prior to her demise actually
in
gently the 12 million pound house in
which she died was registered in the
Panama jungle yeah in an if there had
been Panama papers at the time she'd
have been on it she was a tax dodger she
destroyed 30 percent of British
manufacturing capacity she destroyed the
coal industry and the lives of hundreds
of thousands of men women and children
who depended on it she shot the steel
industry the shipbuilding industry the
car industry them the motorbike I mean
she wrecked but she even stole milk from
the hands as small schoolchildren but
here's a point I spoke to one of the
young women in the good morning Britain
studio she asked me what I was in to
talk about I said I was in to talk about
Thatcher and the young woman looked at
me with a lack of recognition hmm glazed
eyes such as the parlous state of public
education public grasp of current events
and how we got here this young woman had
never heard of Margaret Thatcher still
less that Thatcher was one of the most
wicked people that ever held office in
this country and my goodness that's
stiff competition that as she was in so
you know if you think about it
she left power twenty-eight nearly 30
years ago that means you need before day
five actually and to remember just how
awful she was unless like us we're not
45 but we read the history books
we're doomed and that is it for this
week's show we just want to say again
thank you so much for all your comments
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week please take care of yourselves just
one more thing again the saga with
universal credit has been rolling on
this week with estimate vilas sorry
estimate Vey now coming out and
admitting that delete comments in the
time saying many families would be 200
pounds a month or worse off are actually
true however she then stood up in
Parliament on Monday the 15th of October
and when asked by Debbie Abraham's about
this her response was but but but but
but more people are doing work if they
do more work they'll be fine this is the
most ludicrous answer I've heard out
this woman's mouth yet that by somehow
cutting people's benefits they're going
to be protected because they're going to
have to do more work now we all know
this was of course the point of
universal credit though it was the force
millions of sick and disabled people and
those who are have limited capability of
working back into work however the fact
she admits that in Parliament is
absolutely staggering
and suddenly the mainstream press has
caught up with the rest of us as well
they are now all over it but this is not
enough we need to be campaigning
campaigning campaigning on this issue
Universal Credit has to go stop scrapped
now just one more thing the state of the
British Conservative Party I've spent an
unusual amount of time this week in the
company of right-wing and establishment
journalists who just a few weeks ago
were seeing that treasom a resilient
resume would tough it out and see us
through actually at the very second the
Arats heart stops beating all the
parasites living on the rat depart from
the corpse that has begun to happen and
who do they think is going to be the
next unelected Prime Minister of Britain
Jeremy Hunt I'm not making that up the
man who made such a success of the
National Health Service who turned the
entire medical profession from
Royal Colleges - the militants of unison
against him he is going to be your next
Prime Minister remember you held it here
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